Originally Posted by
ironyusa
Ok, so if you acknowledge that since there were criminal trials sometimes, that the "evil" mechanism that separates families and makes babies represent themselves in court predates Trump. To say otherwise is factually incorrect because I have shown that the criminal law and the Flores settlement agreement are the mechanism by which the "evil" occurs. We can then move to the broader discussion on how to change those policies.
We can talk about potentially compelling reasons why Trump needed to take action. I think allowing the states to enforce immigration is a slippery slope, which is why Arizona vs the US is important.
There's complexity in nuance and if you can rationalize an argument (whether you agree or not) then you can't attribute motive explicitly to racism or xenophobia which not a single one of you that identify as liberal have acknowledged. You instead let Gordon continue to spout that nonsense and his only criticism comes from those with conservative leanings. Beyond that, my personal opinion is that Trump opened a Pandora's box that was better left alone. I don't think there is an immigration crisis.