Hey guys, was hoping to find a copy of Simon's spec sheets for AC barrel/body standardization recommendations. Unfortunately it seems to have gone missing as a result of the server crash.
Does anybody have a link to the PDF or any of the research?
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Hey guys, was hoping to find a copy of Simon's spec sheets for AC barrel/body standardization recommendations. Unfortunately it seems to have gone missing as a result of the server crash.
Does anybody have a link to the PDF or any of the research?
Yep lost in the crash. I don't have the drawings, maybe some one could make a nice drawing and pdf from the files.
I hosted the files again.
Here they are in solidworks format. :)
http://www.simonized.com/CAD/AUTO%20...%20SPEC.sldprt
http://www.simonized.com/CAD/AUTOCOC...%20SPEC.SLDPRT
EDIT: Here's the old PDF.
http://www.simonized.com/CAD/Autococ...ead%20spec.pdf
I have the old PDF, but I can't upload it because the file is too large for the file manager.
Edit: maybe if Simon could send me his email address I could email it to him and he could post it up?
I have it as well. Let me know if this link works. If not, I'll 'share' it with Simon if he has a gmail account. I think that is required now to share things. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B25v...FCMlZwblk/edit
If you can't guess my e-mail you don't get to e-mail me. :)
Pretty sure you get an e-mail from my account every time you get a notification. If not then my username at the website has a damn good chance of working. lol. ;)
Welp, I sent it to the webmaster. Simon, I didn't realize you had taken over the internet :P
edit: no, when you sign up you get an email from webmaster at simonized which doesn't receive mail, but I got it figured out.
Did my link work? How about for those without gmail? I'm still trying to figure out who can collect it since they went from docs to drive.
I have gmail and it didn't work for me. Did you change the permissions to public? (I don't know how to use drive yet either)
It made me ask for permissions for that files. Steve's came through and is up now. :)
http://www.simonized.com/CAD/Autococ...ead%20spec.pdf
And now the link from Wayne works too. :)
I just saw the request for Simon in my email. I granted it, but looks like things are already taken care of. I'll still change it to public though, just to know that it can be done.
Awesome, thanks for putting it up.
Thanks so much for posting these... I don't suppose someone would mind exporting them to .3ds or .skp? (I'm using Sketchup)...
It doesn't look like I can output in either of those formats. Is there anything else you can import into sketchup?
dwg will go into sketchup... or should... depending on the version and/or if you have the Pro version.
Yes, I might be able to shoehorn it into Sketchup via dwg.
I would think working from the .pdf would be easier than monkeying around with importing on sketchup, esp. since they stripped down the import feature on the freeware version.
That's what I was thinking too. Most likely better to input the information you can pull off the PDF and make your own 3d model in sketch up instead of using a 2d file and then having to rebuild it anyway. It is very simple. :)
Got my 15/16-20 GH3 today, tried "tapping one out" real quick before I left work... works great, barrel went in fine. Thanks again :)
Lol. :) Glad it's working for you. :D :tup:
Alright well, OpenSCAD it is then.
Not to be a nuisance, but have you found that thread standard on your computer?
Not sure what you mean, the files I posted are for "standard" threads based upon compatability with all Autococker bodies and barrels. Is there something else you are looking for?
Yoda has the PDF's here too https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B2...kd0c2RldjZoZ1E
I think he means the ones you mentioned that have shorter lengths of threading on both the male and female parts for faster removal/installation.
My bad, had a brain fart. :)
I don't have the drawings made up again but it's pretty straight forward.
The threads are shortened so they start 0.98" from the back of the barrel and go to 1.17" from the back of the barrel.
The threaded area in the body of the gun has a clearance bore that is 1.085" from the face the barrel stops against and 0.926" in diameter.
Awesome, thanks. I'll draw something up later this afternoon so you can post it :)
:tup:
Are you sure the 0.926" on the clearance bore on the body is correct? In the Autococker standards you posted before you have the major diameter on the barrel threads being 0.9280" to 0.9361"...
Good catch. I screwed up converting, should be 0.94"
I updated the drawings on my G-Drive to the dimensions that Simon just gave us.
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B2...kd0c2RldjZoZ1E
Filename is just "AC BARREL SPECS".
Thanks for that, I didn't get around to it again that afternoon and won't have access to my CAD stuff for another week.
Well, I don't know what you guys are doing with your AC threads, but here's what I did:
Attachment 167
It's basically Doc's Mag to Cocker adapter, but with some minor changes:
1. Two detents, because having one break on you mid game really sucks.
2. Plastic, obviously.
3. Slots cut in the threaded section.
Being made out of plastic, it's way cheaper and lighter, but it also has a bit of flex, which I use to my advantage. The slots cut in the (slightly undersized) threads allow the adapter to expand and press fit against the Automag body. This means I don't need the classic barrel o-rings to make the adapter snug and conform to slight variances in body size, and I don't need the twist-lock pin, which I think was a bad design which has knock-on effects to the grip frame.
Field testing this weekend. I have some more tweaks I want to make, but it looks like it's functional as-is.
The best part is I didn't have to beg a machinist to do this for me. I just drew it up in Sketchup (and I didn't even draw the threads -- used an OpenSCAD library for that) and uploaded it to Shapeways. $17.
That looks great, what material is it? How are the tolerances?
It's made by the SLS, Selective Laser Syntering, process. That means it's either a nylon or a glass filled nylon material similar to 30% glass filled nylon.
Typical tolerances are around 5 thousands per inch, but you can end up better.
It's a cool part. :)
Yes, it's some sort of nylon; the exact type I don't know. It fairly durable; not glass-filled-nylon-durable though.
It fits perfectly inside both my mags. The XY tolerances are pretty good, but the coarsest dimension I think is the z-layer height, which is 0.1mm for Shapeways' SLS.
I played with it this weekend and it worked perfectly fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj2K5U8vSOA
Awesome, might try it with Nylon 6 on an extruder (with an O-ring around the bolt) at some point.
Since this thread went the way of the Dodo bird, I'll re-upload my files for you:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-bP...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-bP...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-bP...it?usp=sharing
For the Evil Pipe Kit, the decals denote the wrong bore so Figure #1 lists the decal and then the measured bore.
Anyone have the specs for good ol' WGP barrels/markers? If not I can try to pull something from my old prostock barrel... if I can find it.