For a daily driver car, yes. Totally agree. For a ZL1, GTR or related? Not so much. Those result in exactly what the consumer at least thinks they want though. Just like a limited edition anything. So what if they don't measure up to your standards, the customer ends up buying it, right? Your experience not-withstanding, are people willing to buy limited edition kinda racey go-fast trackish cars?
Yes. All of them made get sold.
thats because they remain actual cars. if race car features are added they will not be sold.
again, history bears this out.
Not saying it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen ALL OF THE TIME. They WOULD explode, vs they MIGHT explode. One is an absolute, where as one is a percentage of the time.
Shoot, race cars explode also. Case in point:
http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/leadin...ans-1796198823
Last line of the article?
They all do. How often they do might be interesting to track, but really we are arguing one percentage vs the other. Twice as often? 3 times?
But if you are going to use "Explode" as your baseline, well, then we shouldn't race
race cars then either. Because, hey, they break also. Looks like all of them had a problem but Porshe.
This is a spurious argument and your point, if used on other racing formats, would say we shouldn't do those either.
wow, you can google things.
this weekend at the track i know 6 cars that blew up. all street cars. no cars modified for racing even broke down.
I hardly came in knowing nothing about cars. I was unfamiliar with the production class vs production stock racing. But not all of it. I know I don't know as much as you. I knew enough to realize your argument was shit. It still is.
I want to know more about racing, but I am not a total idiot. I am arguing this to learn
why. I totally respect your experience, but I don't respect your argument because it seems really weak and fallacious and contradicts what seems like basic logic. I am not challenging you at this point to win an internet back and forth - I found what I was looking for a while back. But I want to know why
you say something that IS being raced,
can't be raced.
the reason you think my argument is weak is that you don't have the experience, background, and know the history the way i do. you refuse to accept this as evidence, instead you take the automotive press (who are all idiots) as your racing knowledge.
When I brought up production vs production racing you should have said,
with all of your experience, "Oh, they have that, here are several formats of the production racing style [insert racing formats]. Did you know they have a rally division? Just replace the shocks and tires, and go at it. Stock car racing used to do that, in the 60's and 70's, but they kept on sneaking in 'Cop parts' and related. Most have faded out due to lack of interest."
That would have done it, it makes sense, and you would have won the internets that day.
there is no such rally division. and the 60s and 70s stock cars are a lesson in why i am right.
That would have been the argument of experience.
I ended up making that argument when you said "It can't happen. They would explode."