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    These are 2 separate points, not dissimilar but here is why.

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    We than snatched as many of those very educated, non-communists as we could to work in our sciences departments, and for our industrial complexes.....
    It was never a question of the US government grabbing all the technical knowledge, paperwork, scientists and products of the war machines that lost for their own. To the victors goes the spoils, and we did much, Operation Paperclip and others saw to that. Because we needed to know what they knew and put that together with what we didn't. Not only the obvious rocket programs that in 15 years helped propel the US to the moon, but other research like swept wings for aircraft, advances in electric submarines on battery and hydrodynamics to produce faster and better subs(ironically, the early Romeo or Whiskey class diesel-electric subs from the soviets was near enough a direct copy of the type 21 German subs).

    But here is the interesting point. Werner Von Braun was a card carrying nazi, but his ideology went as far as to join the programs to allow him to accomplish his goals, to make rockets. Even in Houston and Cape Canaveral, as the TV show joked, you came into space command and said "hiel hitler" and you would get a response. Also, if you ever heard of the hitler youth program, it was basically the nazi boy scouts, but with artillery. Yet, we prosecuted them for that. What was not realized, is that because of the german government, at the time, was very biased towards hiring people that were part of those programs. So, in 1938, if you were 20 and looking for a job, because the government was biased, in order to do any sort of work, you had to be part of these pro-nazi groups.

    Quote Originally Posted by Florypb505 View Post
    We don't have particularly large german communities over here but in the midwest where the auto industries were and down in alabama it's probably a much different kind of white people with a larger post ww2 german influence to it.
    The eaziest way to find out how much a german community there is, is to do a restaurant sesrch for german style beer halls or sausage places. But Wisconsin is very german, not unlike Germantown section around Philly. It is the similar climates they those immigrants saught that reminded them of their homelands, which if you look is why Argentina was also a destination for Germans, as it was the mirror of where Germany was but in the southern hemisphere. Sometimes it is that simple.

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    These are 2 separate points, not dissimilar but here is why.



    It was never a question of the US government grabbing all the technical knowledge, paperwork, scientists and products of the war machines that lost for their own. To the victors goes the spoils, and we did much, Operation Paperclip and others saw to that. Because we needed to know what they knew and put that together with what we didn't. Not only the obvious rocket programs that in 15 years helped propel the US to the moon, but other research like swept wings for aircraft, advances in electric submarines on battery and hydrodynamics to produce faster and better subs(ironically, the early Romeo or Whiskey class diesel-electric subs from the soviets was near enough a direct copy of the type 21 German subs).

    But here is the interesting point. Werner Von Braun was a card carrying nazi, but his ideology went as far as to join the programs to allow him to accomplish his goals, to make rockets. Even in Houston and Cape Canaveral, as the TV show joked, you came into space command and said "hiel hitler" and you would get a response. Also, if you ever heard of the hitler youth program, it was basically the nazi boy scouts, but with artillery. Yet, we prosecuted them for that. What was not realized, is that because of the german government, at the time, was very biased towards hiring people that were part of those programs. So, in 1938, if you were 20 and looking for a job, because the government was biased, in order to do any sort of work, you had to be part of these pro-nazi groups.



    The eaziest way to find out how much a german community there is, is to do a restaurant sesrch for german style beer halls or sausage places. But Wisconsin is very german, not unlike Germantown section around Philly. It is the similar climates they those immigrants saught that reminded them of their homelands, which if you look is why Argentina was also a destination for Germans, as it was the mirror of where Germany was but in the southern hemisphere. Sometimes it is that simple.
    the most polite people made the best nazis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
    the most polite people made the best nazis.
    So maybe the current GOP needs to take lessens from the nazis? But come on, the nazis jad style, their uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss

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    Well this seems somewhat likely to turn into a mess.

    DC mayor activates National Guard ahead of pro-Trump demonstrations
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    odds republican traitors pull it off? i give them 1 in 5.

    odds DC burns on wednesday and thursday night? 7 in 10.
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    Idk, I doubt they?ll want to look like antifa. Wouldn?t want anyone to be confused!

    I expect it to amount to a few scuffles and some arrests. I hope nobody?s dumb enough to actually use a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBSteve View Post
    Idk, I doubt they?ll want to look like antifa. Wouldn?t want anyone to be confused!

    I expect it to amount to a few scuffles and some arrests. I hope nobody?s dumb enough to actually use a firearm.
    Hey, i resent that remark!

    But sure, as bruised, torn, and tattered the constitution is at this point ,the only thing left for trump to do is rip off a corner to roll a big fat J, but he isn't that cool. So gordon, i will take those odds, you want to bet some bitcoin or are you holding out on Amazon stock?

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    Well the released recording of trump trying to shake down Raffensperger is epic. It is an hour long and you will have to listen a few times to after you pick up your jaw https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/polit...ipt/index.html is here, but it is as crazy as everyone who is sane makes it out to be. It is well worth the time, because it is literally trump unfiltered. Since Georgia is a fact 1 party consent state, this is one of the best finds on how trump operatesz unfiltered, unhinged, unsolicited and unethical as ever.

    15 days left and you have to give it to the man, he can pull surprises out of his ass better than any magician could.
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    What?s truly remarkable is that House Republicans are defending him on it.

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    is it remarkable?

    its just fascism guys. its not remarkable.
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