Talking about motive - if you think your opponent on the political field is motivated by racism, or something evil, you are wrong.
In almost all things, they are motivated by things they feel are noble, important, substantial and for the benefit of everyone.
Both sides think this.
It is Good vs Good.
If you think the other side is evil, you do not understand them at all.
And Sun Tzu has a bit about that.
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Ever so many citizens of this republic think they ought to believe that the Universe is a monarchy, and therefore they are always at odds with the republic. -Alan Watts
I work for the company building the Paragon
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...threats-to?amp
These are the people you're insisting aren't racist or mysogynistic.
Ever so many citizens of this republic think they ought to believe that the Universe is a monarchy, and therefore they are always at odds with the republic. -Alan Watts
I work for the company building the Paragon
I propose a new topic... the FDA, DEA and CSA regulations are absurd.
https://www.dea.gov/drug-scheduling
Cannabis & pretty much all hallucinogens fall into the category where they clearly DON'T fit the definition of schedule 1 drugs as they have been proven to have medical benefits. Meanwhile, my dumb state is pushing to expand CBD into the cannabis regulations despite the fact that cannibanoids are naturally occurring in the brain and the extracts are many times from hemp. I honestly can't stand the prohibitive policy on these things. Xanax & ambien are schedule 4!?! Lol wut.
republicans in north Carolina literally told a court of law it was to suppress democratic voters (based on race)
sorry. voter ID laws are, BY THE PEOPLE WHO PASS THEM, admitted to be only about suppressing democratic turnout.
if you have a problem with that statement, take it up with your own party. they are the ones that said it. under oath, in a court of a law.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/no...lina-voter-id/
this is not a democrat making this claim, its from there very guys who wrote and passed and enforce the law. its about suppressing democratic votes, based on race.
you lose.
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social conservatism: the mortal fear that someone, somewhere, might be having fun.
i believe locking children in up in concentration camps is evil. and anyone who supports such behavior is evil.
it is not good versus good. we have very real, very evil portions of our society dragging us towards fascism.
if there is one blessing of the trump administration, its shown me who i simply disagree with on political philosophy, and who, truly, is a garbage human being. they are not the same, but the trump administration gives us a true litmus test. if you support putting children in concentration camps, you are a garbage human being. if you don't support raising the minimum wage, we just disagree on political grounds.
Last edited by cockerpunk; 10-25-2018 at 10:30 AM.
social conservatism: the mortal fear that someone, somewhere, might be having fun.
Obama on why he increased the budget for the camps and started locking up children.i believe locking children in up in concentration camps is evil. and anyone who supports such behavior is evil.
So, Obama is Evil. Got it. Wait. Trump. Because when Obama did it the news held back the pictures that were taken in 2014, and then when they were released in 2018 the news put it everywhere. Funny that.The government had one lightly used 100-bed facility in central Pennsylvania and added three larger facilities in Texas and New Mexico holding thousands.
The New Mexico facility would later close and Obama would face legal challenges that stopped him from detaining mothers and children indefinitely.
A federal judge in California ruled that the Obama administration was violating a 20-year old case, known as Flores when it kept families detained for longer than 20 days. The Trump administration has used the Flores settlement as the backbone for the separation practice and Wednesday's order will likely cause more court challenges to Flores.
Chris Chmielenski, Numbers USA's director of content and activism, said the Obama administration was put "under incredible pressure" not to hold families. Chmielenski argued the administration didn*t fight hard enough. "It's part of the reason we're in the position we are in," he said.
Obama took other controversial steps as well, including fighting to block efforts to require unaccompanied children to have legal representation and barring detained mothers with their children from being released on bond.
The administration also deported a teenage mother and her son back to Honduras soon after she attempted suicide at Texas family detention center.
Her lawyer, Bryan Johnson, finds its difficult making comparisons saying they were both tough on enforcement. But he worries comparing what Trump did to Obama makes the crisis today look less significant.
*Obama was bad. ... I think the main difference is scale here with Trump."
While Obama downplayed his enforcement, Trump has embraced and made it a signature issue of his presidency.
Actually, you are just fucking clueless as to WHY.
The WHY has to do with the fact that Obama did it as a deterrent to future border crossers. He wanted to stop families from crossing and bringing their family which often allowed them special treatment - which meant some strangers would take pay to fake being a family so a parent could get a kid across the border when they couldn't. He wanted families to stay back.
Taking the kids away comes from the parents immediately being felons, and now going to court. They were separated because the parents are going through the court system in an attempt to fix the longer than 20 day waiting list Obama had in place.
Gordon, stop proving how clueless you are about every fucking thing. Do some research. Put down Kool-aid. And the forums. Because you SUCK at them.
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