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    Oh god, it is a rainmaker. I'm everything I've ever hated and time is a flat circle

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    Don't feel too bad. Years ago Colin and I used to talk about once a week. We were totally on the same wavelength. We both had though about a design for the Nightmare. Maybe make it a Semi-auto.

    After talking about seal placement and such, we realized we had invented the Stingray. Together.

    That was shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker27 View Post
    Oh god, it is a rainmaker. I'm everything I've ever hated and time is a flat circle
    Hahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbjosh View Post
    Ryan, you just invented the Vector! Or the Rainmaker.
    I've owned both, and actually enjoyed the Rainmaker quite a bit. They both had a similar sound when fired, although distinctly different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker27 View Post
    Oh god, it is a rainmaker. I'm everything I've ever hated and time is a flat circle
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    social conservatism: the mortal fear that someone, somewhere, might be having fun.

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    Since this thread has wandered into more technical things... Is the Planet Eclipse Lever Valve patented? I was thinking that making a lever valve for an Autococker might be slick... lower the hammer mass and/or spring force or length. *seems* like it should be easy.

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    It almost certainly IS patented, however, Jack is a cool dude so I'm not sure he'd be opposed to something like this. Obviously, you'd have to ask him. The lever valve itself 1st existed in a zap gun albeit in a vertical arrangement.

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    @JimBobFett - I'm of the opinion a good balanced valve solves that issue a touch better than a lever valve.

    The LV1 has the advantage of being designed from the ground up, the the offset of the rammer tube from the valve bore really makes a big difference in multiple aspects of that gun:

    Improves ergonomics by shifting tube position
    Slows valve open speed (smoother gas release)
    Allows for larger valve face - better flow characteristic
    which in turn enables lower pressure
    which requires higher volume
    which packages nicely because of the lever valve


    Steve and I are fond of saying that when you've got an elegant design concept, features just seem to fall right out of it. I think the Lever is a good example of this.
    "So you've done this before?"
    "Oh, hell no. But I think it's gonna work."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironyusa View Post
    It almost certainly IS patented, however, Jack is a cool dude so I'm not sure he'd be opposed to something like this. Obviously, you'd have to ask him. The lever valve itself 1st existed in a zap gun albeit in a vertical arrangement.
    I figured a patent would at least be attempted for it but was skeptical as to if it was even capable of a utility patent. Using levers on valves isn't very new. Another way to gain leverage would be positioning the hammer axis at an angle to the valve stem with a wedge face... can't happen in a straight tube though. Not looking to mass produce or anything... just don't want anyone helping me machine the parts for a few to worry.

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    The cam type opening you described is likely covered under the now expired ICD 'cat patent. The vertical poppet moves against a ramped profile.

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